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The Worst Law School Advice that Just Won't Die (And How to Avoid It)

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David (12 hours ago)
I briefed MOST cases in law school, and it was overkill and time consuming.
kellyloganme (4 days ago)
Objection! Misleading (advice from a trainer ;^) What you write is what your audience will often remember, even if you are saying the opposite or right above it is "don't. . ." in smaller letters. Say the myth, even show a graphic of someone unreliable saying it, but when you put up a short phrase in large font, have it be what you want your audience to internalize. Ex: "Go to class and pay attention." "Do NOT brief every case you read." Keep these side comments simple so that the primary attention stays on you while you're talking and the text is passively absorbed. (This is used in marketing as well. Only use the power for good! :^)
Kyto Bytes (4 days ago)
I have always been fascinated about law, have never wanted to go to college for it, but if anybody could convince me to go, it would be you. Either way, your page is incredibly useful, law is important for everyone to know, especially for people like me who are too poor and will most likely be better off representing themselves lol.
Scally Wag (6 days ago)
A lot of the comments say something like, "I'm not even going to law school and this guy is amazing!" The strangest thing for me is, my plans changed fairly recently and I do plan on going to law school and this guy's channel is only getting popular now. A strange coincidence, indeed.
frenstcht (6 days ago)
Okay, I'm not a lawyer, but I've spent some time working with the law to some degree, and I don't understand what there is for people to not understand. While there are terminology and facts, the actual understanding seems trivial indeed. Please explain what, exactly, is difficult to understand. Edit to fix a pronoun problem
theDENIMMAN (8 days ago)
Like a whole bunch of your commenters I have no idea what youre talking about a lot of the time...hell the laws you practice don't even apply to me since I am Canadian But youre so engaging I lose evenings listening to your videos
PraiseDivineMercy (11 days ago)
I'm not in law school but my current college program is really tough. What is your advice for dealing with the resulting stress?
Looo Fuckyou (13 days ago)
I like your other videos. ... but Dude, did you pump up your Pecs to distract from the white splotch on your face? Advice? wear a jacket, and shave.
Nanook128 (16 days ago)
Another reason for doing your outline every week, is that spending more time with the subject while it is fresh in your mind will help commit it to long term memory better. Studying a little bit every week is much more effective than cramming for 10 hours the day before the test.
LRCLaw (21 days ago)
Every lawyer I met before I went to law school told me not to go to law school. I thought they were just being jerks, but whatever it was I'm glad they said it. If you can be convinced not to go to law school by cursory remarks, you probably shouldn't be there anyway. Not because you're stupid or afraid, but because if you don't care enough to keep going after that advice you shouldn't waste your time, money, and sanity. It's really hard. If you aren't sure, take some time to figure it out before you commit. Law schools love real world experience anyway.
mark lee (24 days ago)
I think the most valuable rule for learning is to understand why someone is telling you what they are telling you. You don't read about Albeman v. Booth to learn slavery was a travesty. So, it makes sense to me that you should read the case summaries first. TL;DR: You need to know why you're reading what you're reading, before you read it.
Jim Schwartz (24 days ago)
What about the advice that, on your first day in law school, you should find the biggest person there and beat the crap out of him? Or is that for the first day in prison? I don't remember. Never mind.
Eric (24 days ago)
Objection! Not everyone has a butt.
William Boared (24 days ago)
No one tells you ... you will be spending far more time decorating than you ever expected - yet no one has a class on it.
Tiny Ford (26 days ago)
Best advice I ever got was “only study case law, and understand what it’s about”
TaverensPull (26 days ago)
Point of order: Do you deal with American law specifically or also with international and if so what laws are there between America and Canada in say drug trafficking or illegal immigration?
QuasiELVIS (27 days ago)
"butts". Does anyone actually talk like that irl? I always thought it was just a cartoonish way to dodge TV censors.
Sauron27 (27 days ago)
I hadn't heard the thing about waiting until the end of the semester to do outlines. I pretty much updated mine daily. Taking notes in class then keying them in when it was fresh helped some of that stuff the prof would like to test on. A couple of other tips, I don't know if they still do this (I went to law school with Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer), but they used to make the profs publish their tests. I'd go get the last five tests at the beginning of the semester and work them as we went along in class. You see the subjects they test and disturbingly how often they recycle questions. A hero 2L told me that when I first got there. The other thing is that you go to a good law school that grades on the curve, you got to realize everyone's as bright as you are so you can't skid like in undergrad. I took a 14th Amendment class with around sixty students. The test had 120 points. The AmJur winner got 97. The C+ got 87. It's so much more competitive than you'd think.
James Richmond (28 days ago)
Why is there a patch in the beard? Why is there a Legal Beagle when LeageEagle looks more like a beagle than Legal Beagle? I want the truth!
Adam Nonya (28 days ago)
I'm on the toilet and I ate popeyes. It burns. Know that it burns.
Arturo CA (28 days ago)
I never wanted to study law because I am too much of a cynic to even take seriously the existence of justice. But this man is right and this translates to education in general. I study physics, material stuff is easier than trying to define right or wrong.
Tesslyn Francis (28 days ago)
I've always done my outline at the end of the semester or when I have to study that stuff for a test, and I'm on Dean's List and in my final week of law school. While this is good advice, do what works for you.
Agatha Grunt-thruster (29 days ago)
4:42 I can’t stress this enough, you want to cash in on the half-blood prince possibility. Maybe the person who had the textbook before you was the Snape of law, you don’t want to miss the chance to get into the brain zone of Alan Rickman.
So this is why you know so little about bird law, you slept through that part of class.
Uncle Sunbro (1 month ago)
These are easily translated to other professions and schools as well. Just good academic advice.
Ryan Wojciechowski (1 month ago)
Now this is some Bob Ross levels of wholesome work. Love it LE.
Martha G. (1 month ago)
I used to go to law school, not anymore (and never again, for the near future!). I couldn't pass a single class that required applying principles and rules of law, but it was an interesting experience regardless. Watching these videos brings back memories :) Listen to his advice, people!
Squid Balls (1 month ago)
I had a class where the professor on the first day announced that everyone would get an A, because of his belief or whatnot. We still went to his class because he was interesting to listen to.
Notes Verse (1 month ago)
Play at 1.5 speed
Brandan Borgos (1 month ago)
Objection! Case books look pretty on a shelf, as can be seen behind you. :P
Taiya001 (1 month ago)
@[email protected] yikes law school sounds super scary.
Faisal Al-Ameer (1 month ago)
I'm a CADD operator and I don't know why I'm watching this
Missy Evitt (1 month ago)
That is not how the saying goes.
IAN 4000 (1 month ago)
I watch your videos and they're so entertaining I start to think, "Huh, maybe going to law school wouldn't crush my soul" But then I catch myself
Sanjaya Sieunarine (1 month ago)
I am engineer, why i am watching this?
Nichelle C. (1 month ago)
Omg, yes! I wish I was never told to brief every case...such a waste.
Gazdatronik (1 month ago)
Holy Crapola! If I'm paying several times my salary for Lawyer College, you best be damned I am going to listen to my instructor!
supersam 11 (1 month ago)
Why am I watching this I’m a law student
For advice, obviously.
Youtube Comments (1 month ago)
Study hard, Make sure you understand the fundamentals and have a good foundation, and ensure you get enough sleep.
David Szczesniak (1 month ago)
makes me want to make a video about overcoming test anxiety.
CanterlotCrusader (1 month ago)
But does getting advice on how bad advice is defeat itself??? (jk)
dewitt mcintyre (1 month ago)
I'm not a lawyer, but take it from someone who has three Masters degrees and who is now an educator. I don't care if your going vcr repair school, skipping class is NEVER EVER a good idea. I think the lawyers who want to graduate top of their class are saying that to thin out the herd.
iiiiiifggffggffgfgfg (1 month ago)
Bro each and every class at my law school was a waste of time.
Jefstito (1 month ago)
What am I doing here? I work in Inbound Marketing and have no interest in law
BlackFox (1 month ago)
the first one is one ofthe stupidest i ever heard. Something you can do in mandatory school. Less so in profession. #5 And it saves you from stess after the semester!
Wilson Solt (1 month ago)
Dude why does your butt stink? Just because you defecate doesn't mean you have a butt covered in feces. Maybe wash your butt. Or use were wipes. Just don't flush the wet wipes. They are hell on the septic system.
diehardrvdfan22 (1 month ago)
Wow. This was graphic.
PetHub (1 month ago)
I always prepared case briefs because I was afraid of cold calls. But then I stopped doing them because they were a huge waste of time
confusedwhale (1 month ago)
OBJECTION! Major lost opportunity at the beginning to pun it up with, "so cigaround."
Wolf Voigt (1 month ago)
There is also bulimia studying (directly translated from German). Study all night before your test and then basically puke it on the paper. First Thing is that you basically forget everything after your test and second is that you aren't well rested for the test
Dilyan Nikolov (1 month ago)
I'm a bulgarian programmer ! Why have I watched 10 vids about studying and practicing American law. I need help :)
Andrew Craig (1 month ago)
I wish I’d seen this as a 1L. Good advice.
David McDevitt (1 month ago)
There is no need to brief every case, but saying there may not be a need to brief ANY case is, itself, terrible advice. Start out fully briefing every case, even if only for the first couple of weeks. You have to understand the judicial process or you often won’t understand the outcome and the reasoning. Once you get the hang of it, you’ll know when you’re wasting time briefing cases.
bs4e (1 month ago)
This is just good study notes for everyone
Maxim 777 (1 month ago)
I’m going to med school lol. Why am watching this.
Grimmy (1 month ago)
Great advice. I always used the commercial outline to build upon my own outline (combined with class notes). Doing that always resulted in great grades
Michael McChesney (1 month ago)
I remember one poli sci class I took in college where I spent $150 on the books (this was over 30 years ago) and never once opened them. I paid attention in class, took notes, and got an A. But I always did the reading in law school. But the first time I got called on in my small section contracts class, I was embarrassed when I was questioned about a case even though I had read it. There was no way I was going to write a brief for every case I read, but I hit upon a system where I used different colored highlighters to highlight the facts, the issue, the reasoning, and the conclusion of every case I read. The next time I was questioned about a case I was able to quickly refresh my recollection and was never embarrassed like that (in class anyway) again. I graduated from law school in 1998. During my first year I came across software that combined an Emmanuel Outline with a word processor. This allowed you to add to, delete, or modify the commercial outline and make it your own. My Civil Procedure professor allowed us to use our outlines during the final exam, but we were not allowed a commercial outline. There was no rule against copying from a commercial outline into our own outline. I exploited that loophole. She did warn us that if we actually had to stop to look something up we would run out of time. Law school exams are usually written so that there is no possible way to get a perfect score because of time pressure. Often a law student that scores 50% of the possible points will have the top grade in the class. The major addition I made to my outline was a table of contents, an index, and many tabbed dividers. I ended up with a 3.5/4.0. My second year, I loaned that outline to a first year friend who had the same professor. More than half of that class ended up photocopying and using that outline. They may still be using it for all I know. If there is one piece of advice I could offer to a prospective law student that I wish someone had offered to me, it is this. I went to Washington and Lee Law School which was ranked 19th by U.S. News and World Report and ranked 2nd in '"quality of life" by Princeton Review the year I started. After I was accepted off the waiting list and had sent in my deposit I received a letter from the University of Iowa inviting me to apply, waiving the application fee, and basically telling me a full ride scholarship was a real possibility because of my LSAT score. I was so emotionally drained from the whole application process I had no interest in reopening it. But I really wish I had for two reasons. The first is probably obvious. Going to a lower ranked school but graduating without more than $100K in student loan debt might make a lot of sense. The debt is almost certainly worth it if you are going to Harvard or Yale. But if you are not going to a top 10 school consider this. I graduated in the top 3rd of my class at a top 20 school (though a school without much of a reputation outside of the South). I spent a few years as a legal recruiter and I learned that top firms hire graduates from top 10 schools or people who graduated in the top 10%/law review from schools outside the top 10. I probably would have had a much better chance of graduating in the top 10% of my class if I went to a law school that was impressed enough with my grades/LSAT to offer me a full ride as opposed to a school where I was originally wait-listed. I will conclude with a hopefully amusing anecdote. I applied to Columbia Law School but didn't really expect to be accepted. It wasn't long before I got my rejection letter. After I got the rejection, my Dad tells me he used to work with the assistant to the President of Columbia University . "Would you like me to ask him to put in a good word for you?" he asks me. I told him that would have to be some word to get me unrejected. "Unless you saved his life during the war I think it's too late" I told him. The moral of this story is ask your parents if they know anyone at your reach schools BEFORE you are rejected.
"context is overrated" Funny how the meaning of that sentence changes without context ;)
Serg F (1 month ago)
How tall are you?
Arkone Axon (1 month ago)
You forgot this one: "Don't try to sue your professor." This was an actual case that I learned about back when I was receiving an e-mail newsletter titled "The True Stella Awards" (a reference to the woman who sued McDonalds for being burned by her coffee, and a fake list of untrue incidents that motivated an attorney to begin compiling true frivolous lawsuits and exploring them. One of the cases was a law student who listening to a professor lecturing on "assault," and providing definitions. He lightly tapped the young woman on the shoulder and explained, "this could be considered assault, depending on the context." ...She then decided to file a lawsuit declaring that she was suffering nightmares and PTSD as a result of the assault committed in class. I honestly do not recall if the lawsuit ever made it to trial or if the judge threw it out for being obviously frivolous... but it's a pretty safe bet that she didn't get to graduate from that law school...
Madotsu (1 month ago)
Can I buy a car from you please?
SpireSpore (1 month ago)
Im not studying law either! I don't even care about the law. but his videos are interesting 😃
Natasha Paige Cortez (1 month ago)
This guy mansplains a lot...
Excludos (1 month ago)
I certainly would never tell anyone not to go to class, that's like you said horrible advice. I will, however, state that not everyone gets an equal amount of usefulness from it. I'm not a lawyer so maybe that's different, but I did complete computer science, and I barely attended class at all. Maybe hovering around 50% attendance. For a lot of the subjects, I simply learned much more on my own than I did in class, so I found myself showing up to school only to sit down in the common area and finish my assignments on my own. I was also lucky enough to have really good friends who would tell me if there was something critical I missed during a class. I don't think this is for everyone, but if you find yourself, like me, realising you're not getting anything from class, there's no shame in just doing it yourself.
TheZSquaredMusic (1 month ago)
I took a “Business Law” class in college (the lawyer teaching it instead called it Contracts Law, but offically, that wasn’t the name). On the final exam, the final question said “Pass/Fail Question: I will not work to one day become a lawyer T/F” I answered T and still passed the class with a solid B+. Some days I think back to when my Grandmother used to tell me I “should go to law school one day,” and I wonder, was I wrong to persue something else?
lakkakka (1 month ago)
lol, a lawyer saying context is overrated.
John Freeman (2 months ago)
Can I get some advice on how to get a perfect stubbly beard? I need it for law school.
Anne Reilley (2 months ago)
Why would you go to school and think going to class is optional?
Alexander Jakubsen (2 months ago)
Love your videos. Buts what is up with the hairless patch on your right cheek?
no, as a matter of fact (2 months ago)
PhD translation student here. Yep, gotta watch that law school advice video. That obviously makes more sense than writing conference papers that have been on a neverending hiatus for past 3 months.
Jaz (2 months ago)
this is actually great advice even if you're not going to study law, all uni students should folow this really even if your lecturer is incompetant
Jacob Thompson (2 months ago)
I'm an econ phd student but this is super interesting and it seems applicable to all grad school programs: take whatever shortcuts you can because 1) You'll be insanely busy no matter what you study and 2) professionals always take shortcuts and that's okay.
Nico V (2 months ago)
The advice you have given here is really universally useful in my opinion. I´m a third year law student from Germany, where we have a strict code-law-system. You still need to do those outlines and it is much easier to do them ahead of time. Usually you'll even end up doing them a bit more in depth that way, since you don't have the exams coming up in a few weeks. Also do listen to what the professors have to say. Especially if they have something specific, that they are passionate about. You'll be able to understand that aspect of the law on a much deeper level and therefore rock any exams, that only require you to scratch the surface of this particular problem. All in all, excellent advice!
"Advice about what you should do.....are like butts, everyone has one & most of them stink." Bahaha!
sublime90 (2 months ago)
i have a friend who thought 'black letter laws" was specific laws just for black people.
dillusioned (2 months ago)
99% of what you learn in law school you will never use when being a lawyer, so I asked a lawyer to teach me how to be a lawyer and I would give him the tuition I was supposed to pay to law school.
dillusioned (2 months ago)
Start writing practice exams as soon as possible-know how to write essay exams. This guy is the real deal in giving practical advice about law school. But you have to experience law school to really know what he is talking about.
Megan (2 months ago)
im??? a drama major how did i get here
Keron Beepath (2 months ago)
I have no plans in becoming a lawyer, much less go to law school, but I can’t stop watching theses vids.
Roli Rivelino (2 months ago)
Yes but if I'm studying divorce law, how can I practice sucking the blood from live victims without being arrested?
Liz A (2 months ago)
I'm prefacing this with I was a law student for a year, but it didn't work out (academic dismissal due to low GPA). What I find interesting about #1 is, as far as I'm aware, there is an ABA requirement for how many classes a law student must attend in order to fulfill the requirement. So, the student is potentially screwing themselves over. #2 I did this because the professors would question us on the even the most minute cases that we were assigned. I was always afraid of getting cold called and not have the answer ready. #3 near the end, I tried to use commercial outlines and found I did much better that way than just totally basing it off my notes, but not that much better, but I think it was my own analytical issues as well. #4 I rarely did, unless the professor had some "special edition" that was made and therefore changed a bunch of cases, changed page numbers etc. Big money waster, in my opinion.
rene charbonneau (2 months ago)
Doing an advice video 'bout ignoring advices... lol
SPFrobber (2 months ago)
I am drunk and mildly stoned but love the articulation of his speech. I work in marketing where shortcuts are money and he speaks well. It takes skill to accurately convey a message with the first take, and then do it repeatedly 😎
Shofar Olaguez (2 months ago)
I am going to become a lawyer by watching all your videos :v
Daksh Tripathi (2 months ago)
Is there a lot of learning in law?
Daksh Tripathi (2 months ago)
Where did you graduate from???
DenaL112 (2 months ago)
Do not go to class or pay attention! LOL. Really? I have never heard that ever!
AB (2 months ago)
It sounds like you got a lot of really bad advice in law school. How'd you make it out alive?
Malcanth (2 months ago)
I always buy used books, but not because they are cheaper. It is like getting a book that already has all of the important stuff highlighted or underlined. If the student who had the book before me marked something, it is probably something important for me to know too. And the previous owner of the book might have marked some stuff that I would have missed.
dullahan LC. (2 months ago)
I'm a software engineer, why the hell am I binge watching his videos??
post-buttwave (1 month ago)
you like learning and he's really engaging. on that note check out civil engineer donoteat01 explaining the history of urban development using Cities: Skylines
Johnny Appleseed (2 months ago)
If you don't recommend reading the cases, then what do you recommend for when I am cold called on and asked about them? Because most of my professors ask. Also do you have any specific recommendations for commercial outlines?
Auntiemarshmallow (2 months ago)
What is your learning goal when doing a case brief? I'm not a lawyer, and I never even considered it, but I'm asking because current research on learning suggests that paraphrasing things helps you remember things more efficiently. Is it slower? Yes, but you will also remember that info longer. So...what's your priority? Also, do not reread. Rereading makes you familiar with the content, but it does not help you understand it. Instead, test yourself. Write your own tests if you need to. If you are able to write your own test, you can more or less predict what will test questions.
AK (2 months ago)
#4 is same for those in medical field. I remember right before PA school we [all the new students] were all swept into a classroom and a medical device representative was there trying to get us to buy all brand new equipment that we never ended up using. Why the heck did I buy a freakin otoscope and opthamoloscope? I never used them in school or afterwards...Other than the Littmann stethoscope the rest of it was wasted.
Christopher Gibbons (2 months ago)
The outlining one for sure. Regardless of your academic field. I'd say go one step further and get a good notes software like one note, and take the time to learn the software. Outlining is halfway done just by taking notes. You can include annotations like links to other sources. Everything will be indexed and fully searchable by content, date, and even by what you wrote the most about. Most schools will have some kind of way for you to get these softwares for free.
niuxen (2 months ago)
I mean I know you made fun of Harvey in your suits episode... but man, your voice, your style, your confidence and your look... you can be the better Harvey 2.0 :D
Marcelo Yuri (2 months ago)
3:28 I think it was the first time I saw someone using the word arcane that didn't revolve around fantasy settings. BTW, I don't go to law school. My best friend does. He ALWAYS insisted on me going because, on his words, my arguing is always good and on point and it is hard for me to be wrong on facts, so he enjoys testing himself against me. Same thing with my ex, which was a girl from his class, it was to the point where she made an objective to win a discussion with me that didn't revolve around opinion. All of this might be the reason why I enjoy this channel so much. But I studied psychology for 3 years and left for medical reasons and now I want to be a writer, it is funny that I had so much "law talk" around me and still don't want to practice it.
As a senior law student in a country with a romano-germanic law system I find your videos really fascinating :)
Anna Huff (2 months ago)
This is the best comment thread ever. Like half the people here are trying to figure out why they've watched so many of his videos when they have no interest in law school. You know you're killing the YouTube thing when half your viewers have zero interest in your subject but keep watching because you're so engaging.
KixMayne91 (2 months ago)
I'm a programmer with my degree, and yet I'm here watching this video about law school, hmmmmm.
MrTindervox (2 months ago)
Why am I watching this.. I'm a Computer Science BCs.
Pedro Amaral (2 months ago)
The outline advice at the end is so true. It helped me a lot to do that work every week
raekuul (2 months ago)
The "do your outlines weekly" advice I 100% agree with. *Everything that you learn, you learn incrementally.* You don't just decide to walk into a gym one day and bench press 300 pounds, because you know you'll just hurt yourself trying. It's the same with learning the law, or math, or a language, or writing a fanfiction - trying to do it all at once will just hurt you.

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